Episode # 121 – We Welcome Back Dave Berg with Redirect Health. He Has Delivered Affordable Primary Care, Physical Medicine and Labs to Over 1,000 Businesses Nationwide. There is No One Better at Squeezing Wasteful Spending from Primary Care than They Are. Hear How.

In this episode, Ron welcomes back Dr. Dave Berg, Chairman of the Board & Co-Founder of Redirect Health. Here, Dave discusses the changes in the healthcare landscape since his last time on the show, specifically with how COVID-19 forced American healthcare to evolve. He also discusses how his organization has continued to grow and provide the best and most affordable options for employers, especially during the pandemic. Dave does a deep dive into the kind of cost savings one can expect when working with Redirect Health.

Dr. David Berg is Co-founder and Chairman of the Board of Redirect Health, a national leader in healthcare innovation. Dave is focused on creating an amazing healthcare member experience, and he does this by simplifying traditionally complex systems that most believe could not be changed. With deliberate and strategic, outside-of-the-box thinking, he innovates new ways to deliver easy and affordable healthcare to people everywhere.

Dave majored in Physics and Biology at the University of Toronto before earning his Doctor of Chiropractic degree in 1990. That same drive can be seen in his uncompromising belief that everyone in America deserves easy and affordable healthcare. Dave believes that America is better when its people are privileged with clean water, great education, safe infrastructure, and healthcare that works for everyone.

Mr. Berg is passionate about making healthcare work extremely well for people and their families, and that’s why he created Redirect Health. With more than 20 years of healthcare leadership experience, he has a successful track record for smart system design and has pioneered Redirect Health – a new healthcare model that provides affordable healthcare without additional cost by systematically eliminating healthcare waste, unnecessary administration, and confusion.

The companies that Dave founded have healthcare costs that are among the lowest in the nation, and he is able to provide all employees and their families with free healthcare. Dave is so passionate about helping businesses offer free healthcare to their employees that he wrote The Business Owner’s Guide to Fighting Healthcare – a how-to guide that teaches business owners how to leverage healthcare as a competitive advantage. Companies in 40 states have adopted and greatly benefited from this solution because of Redirect Health.

With his unique leadership approach, Dave is accomplishing what many said couldn’t be done, which is to make healthcare easy and affordable for everyone. Dr. Berg’s vision is to have healthcare working so well in America that businesses can offer it to their employees for free.

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Episode # 120 – Dave Chase is Back for Round 2 and We Discuss What is Actually Fixed Already Thanks to the Enlightened Advisors at Health Rosetta.

In this episode Dave Chase, Co-Founder and CEO of Health Rosetta comes back on the show. Here Dave discusses the story of Forgotten Frank, the hypothetical middle America hardworking guy that has not seen a wage gain in over 20 years. Not because the employer isn’t spending a bunch more money on Frank, but because all of those dollars have been stolen away by the bloat and waste. Dave also does a deep dive into what the waste and bloat is, how Americans are sick of it, and how the pandemic has impacted it. He shares some real rays of hope in that healthcare is fixed, you just have to know where to find the fixes.. Luckily, Dave and Ron discuss where to find them.

Dave is the creator of the Health Rosetta and cofounder of the Health Rosetta ecosystem.

Co-founder of the Health Rosetta that consists of 2 main pillars:

  1. Impact: Education/accreditation that is building the LEED-like ecosystem for healthcare; Media that includes the film and books. The Big Heist is the first fiercely non-partisan film to tackle healthcare. We also publish The CEO’s Guide to Restoring the American Dream: How to deliver world class healthcare to your employees at half the cost and The Opioid Crisis Wake-Up Call;
  2. Investment: Backing the transformation of healthcare including the Quad Aim Fund, a seed stage venture fund and working with family offices on special purpose vehicle investments in healthcare’s transformation.

Chase’s TEDx talk entitled “Healthcare Stole the American Dream – Here’s How We Take it Back” sums up healthcare’s devastation of the middle class and the redemption coming via a bottom-up movement. Chase was named one of the most influential people in Digital Health due to his entrepreneurial success, speaking & writing. He delights in sharing how high-performing organizations have solved healthcare’s toughest challenges. Chase co-authored the healthcare Book of the Year in in 2014.

Chase was the CEO/Co-founder of Avado, acquired by & integrated into WebMD & Medscape (the most widely used healthcare professional site). Before Avado, Chase spent several years outside of healthcare in startups as founder or consulting roles with LiveRez.com, MarketLeader, & WhatCounts. He also played founding & leadership roles in launching two new $1B+ businesses within Microsoft including their $2 billion healthcare platform business.

Chase is a father of two great kids/athletes, husband & oxygen-fueled mountain athlete. His 2014 team placed 3rd in their division & 24th overall (of 500 teams) the US’ oldest adventure race where Dave tackled the Nordic ski leg. Dave was a former PAC-12 800 Meter competitor.

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Episode # 119 – Dan Thompson is a Rare Advisor who has 1,500 PCPs on a Software Platform that Alows Them to Have Directly Contracted Patients Sign Up. 15,000 Have, in Just Two Years.

In this episode Ron chats with Dan Thompson, CEO of Clinical Wellness Network & Thompson Risk. Here they discuss the work Thompson Risk is doing developing direct contracting solutions for employers. He also does a deep dive into the benefits employers see, such as cost saving, when it comes to direct contracting. Dan also shares information on the SAS platform that they created.

Dan Thompson’s foundation has been built on 20+ years of experience working as an advisor with companies such as Paychex, Schwarz Pharma, ADP & 13 years with a large independent insurance brokerage, where he became partner of the firm. Dan is a certified ACA expert and preferred healthcare consultant for many industries.

As CEO of Clinical Wellness Network & Thompson Risk, Dan works with Carriers, Benefits Advisors, Physicians, Employers to bring a new collaboration to the broken healthcare system.

Clinical Wellness Network was created as a SAAS platform that provide technology and business support services to medical providers.

Thompson Risk is founded on the principal that there is much more to offer consumers than insurance for employee benefits. While Thompson Risk has access to 50+ traditional carriers, it also provides insight for employers around developing direct contracting solutions. Thompson Risk is one of the leading agencies in the healthcare sharing space. Thompson Risk is licensed nationwide with it’s principal offices located in Naples, Florida.

Dan Thompson’s philosophy is to disrupt status quo, drive innovation in healthcare by pioneering new ideas to help fix a broken system. This has led companies to improved benefits, higher quality healthcare, lower costs and happier employees.

Dan Thompson is a member of an elite National Next Generation Advisor group, Ascend. He belongs to the Agency Mastermind Growth Network and supports the Association of Insurance Leadership where Dan was awarded the National Innovation Award for 2018.

Dan Thompson was selected as a 40 Under 40 member by Gulfshore Business in 2010. Dan has been featured in National Publications such as Benefits Pro, Rough Notes, SIIA (Self Insurance Institute of America) EBA (Employee Benefit Advisor). Dan was featured as a cover story in the November 2017 edition of Benefits Pro. He is often cited in trade publications and is a sought after writer / speaker for content in various publications in the industry.

Dan Thompson has an open sharing network to help advisors that participate in the Next Gen Mastermind network by growing through education on prospecting, marketing, social media and next level / best practices strategy innovation.

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Episode # 118 – Welcome Back Clinton Phillips, Who Started Medici to Take Virtual Care to a New Level for What Now Has 4,000 Providers and Exceeds 13 Million Patients at 1 in 3 Fortune 100 Companies.

In this episode, Ron welcomes Clinton Phillips back on the show. Clinton is the Founder & CEO of Medici and Founder of 2nd.MD. Here he discusses how the healthcare landscape has changed during the pandemic and how his organization was uniquely situated to grow and meet the needs of patients by providing cutting edge virtual care. Clinton also talks about the different types of employers they work with and how they ensure that their clients have a dedicated team of docs for their staff to utilize, thus being able to develop a real relationship with their docs despite it being virtual. Clinton and Ron also do a deep dive in to what they think the future of virtual care will look like.

Clinton Phillips is currently the founder and CEO of Medici, a global healthcare communication platform. Medici has raised over $40m dollars, has acquired DocBookMD and Chiron Health and now has over 20,000 doctors communicating on its platform monthly.

In 2005, Phillips created the Aspen Back Institute at the St. Regis. Backed by the acclaimed founder of Starwood Hotels, Barry Sternlicht, Aspen Back became a global destination for people from over 40 countries and helped over 1,900 people avoid spine surgery.

Prior to Medici, Phillips created 2nd.MD in 2011 after his daughter suffered a stroke and was left paralyzed. 2nd.MD is a virtual 2nd opinion platform that provides video access to the world’s best doctors at the top 17 US hospitals. 2nd.MD now does more virtual 2nd opinions than the top hospitals combined and has over 10million members. 2nd.MD’s clients include Morgan Stanley, KPMG, EY, United Healthcare, Aetna, Bloomberg, Waste Management and 30 other Fortune 100 companies.

In philanthropy, Phillips is recognized as the largest sponsor of orphans at World Vision and other organizations. In sports, Phillips is recognized as the US National Champion for the 400m and javelin by the USA Track & Field Masters. Phillips has enjoyed the opportunity to speak at Rice, MIT, Princeton and churches across the country and has been featured on CBS, ABC, Forbes, Tech Crunch, Robb Report and more.

Residing in Austin, Texas, Clint has three children with his wife Jade.

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Episode # 117 – Direct Contracting is Much Larger than Anyone Thinks. Here’s The What, The Who and The Why it’s Inevitable and Unstoppable with your Host Ron Barshop.

In this episode Ron chats about his experiences with direct contracting and his insights into how it is a better way to do healthcare in America. He discusses how direct contracting is better for the doctors, consumer, payer and how it lowers costs for all along with is better for population health. The outcomes from those with direct care are undeniable. Direct care patients have 30%-60% less meds, stays in hospitals, ER vists, imaging, specialist visits, and procedures than non direct care patients. He also dives into how giving patients better and more convenient access to their docs changes everything.

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Episode # 116 – Brand Newland Co-Founded Goldfinch Health to Bring Enhanced Recovery to Surgery – a 20-Year-Old Process with Over 4,000 Studies Being Used Only 5% of the Time. Listen to How it Works and Why it’s Critical in Avoiding Opioids, Complications, Time, and Expense.

In this episode Ron chats with Brad Newland, CEO and Co-Founder of Goldfinch Health. Here, Brad does a deep dive in to the work of Goldfinch Health and its mission to help patients better navigate surgery and recovery, saving healthcare costs, minimize opioid use, and help them return to normal life and work faster. He discusses the opioid crisis, the dangers of opioid addiction, and how opioids can often be avoided in surgery recovery altogether. He also talks about how they work with payers, insurers, employers, workers compensation, and patients to provide better outcomes at lower costs.

Brand Newland, PharmD, MBA, is the CEO and Co-founder of Goldfinch Health. Inspired by personal experiences with the pitfalls of surgery and a lack of proactive solutions to the Opioid Crisis, Brand helped to launch a vision toward a higher standard of care in surgery and recovery in 2018. Goldfinch Health optimizes the surgery and recovery experience for patients, saving companies and patients time, money, and addiction.

Brand has over 15 years of experience in bringing new healthcare solutions to payers, employers, healthcare providers, and patients. Brand joined OutcomesMTM, a pharmacy Medication Therapy Management company, as the firm’s fourth employee. He served OutcomesMTM in business development and operations leadership roles, seeing the company through rapid growth and eventually its acquisition by Cardinal Health in 2015. Brand received a Doctor of Pharmacy degree from the University of Iowa and holds a certification in pain management. He has also completed an MBA at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

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Episode # 115 – Dr. Innocent Clement Runs Evolvd Health, a Functional Medicine Direct Care Monthly Fee Platform That’s Making a Difference in Primary Care.

In this episode Ron chats with Dr. Innocent Clement, Founder & CEO of Evolvd Health. Here he discusses his organizations whole body approach to healthcare that encompasses physical, mental, and sexual health. Innocent also does a deep dive into functional medicine and why he chose to be a functional medicine doctor. He also talks about the importance of doctors truly getting to know the whole health of their patients.

 Innocent Clement MD MPH MBA, is the CEO of Evolvd Health, a rapidly growing digital telemedicine company, where he is leading the execution of the company’s unique multi-disciplinary, whole-body 360 approach health business model. He is also a former CEO and Co-Founder of Kaia health Inc a digital therapeutic company, He led the Kaia Health initiatives here in the US, partnerships, clinical trials, regulatory submissions and expansion across North America. Innocent is a trained physician from both Columbia and Harvard University. He has also worked as a management consultant for McKinsey and Company.

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Episode # 114 – Dr. Robert Pearl lead Kaiser Permanente’s Medical Group of 10,000 Docs to #1 Nationally in Quality and Service. Hear What One of Our Great Thought Leaders has to Say About the New Movements That are Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode, Ron chats with healthcare thought leader Dr. Robert Pearl. Here, Dr. Pearl discusses the importance of primary care and how adding 10 primary care physicians to a community increases life expectancy 2.5X more than adding 10 specialists. He discusses how his leadership helped Kaiser Permanente to evolve and become one of the nations top health systems. He also talks about his thoughts on physician culture, digital care, direct primary care, the future of American healthcare, and much more.

Dr. Robert Pearl is the former CEO of The Permanente Medical Group (1999-2017), the nation’s largest medical group, and former president of The Mid-Atlantic Permanente Medical Group (2009-2017). In these roles he led 10,000 physicians, 38,000 staff and was responsible for the nationally recognized medical care of 5 million Kaiser Permanente members on the west and east coasts.

Named one of Modern Healthcare’s 50 most influential physician leaders, Pearl is an advocate for the power of integrated, prepaid, technologically advanced and physician-led healthcare delivery.

He serves as a clinical professor of plastic surgery at Stanford University School of Medicine and is on the faculty of the Stanford Graduate School of Business, where he teaches courses on strategy and leadership, and lectures on information technology and health care policy.

He is the author of “Mistreated: Why We think We’re Getting Good Healthcare—And Why We’re Usually Wrong,” a Washington Post bestseller that offers a roadmap for transforming American healthcare. All proceeds from the book go to Doctors Without Borders. His next book, “Uncaring: How the Culture of Medicine Kills Doctors & Patients will be published spring 2021.

Dr. Pearl hosts the popular podcasts Fixing Healthcare and Coronavirus: The Truth. He publishes a newsletter with over 12,000 subscribers called Monthly Musings on American Healthcare and is a regular contributor to Forbes. He has been featured on CBS This Morning, CNBC, NPR, and in TIME, USA Today and Bloomberg News. He has published more than 100 articles in medical journals and contributed to numerous books. A frequent keynote speaker at healthcare and medical technology conferences. Pearl has addressed the Commonwealth Club, the World Healthcare Congress, the Institute for Healthcare Improvement’s National Quality Forum and the National Committee for Quality Improvement (NCQA).

Board certified in plastic and reconstructive surgery, Pearl received his medical degree from the Yale University School of Medicine, followed by a residency in plastic and reconstructive surgery at Stanford University.

From 2012 to 2017, Pearl served as chairman of the Council of Accountable Physician Practices (CAPP), which includes the nation’s largest and best multispecialty medical groups, and participated in the Bipartisan Congressional Task Force on Delivery System Reform and Health IT in Washington, D.C.

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Episode # 113 – Nice Healthcare is a Venture Funded Virtual and Home Visit Primary Care Offering for Under $40/Family. Meet Co-founder and CEO, Thompson Aderinkomi.

In this episode Ron chats with Thompson Aderinkomi, Co-founder and CEO of Nice Healthcare. Here Thompson does a deep dive into the Nice model and what makes them special. He also discusses what inspired him to start the business, his organizations values and, and their commitment to patients. He talks about his goals for the future and thoughts on the future of direct primary care.

Thompson Aderinkomi is currently co-founder and CEO of Nice Healthcare a technology enabled primary care clinic that delivers all care in the comfort of the patient’s home and contracts directly with small employers. He also co-founded RetraceHealth in 2013 a direct primary care medical practice that went on to raise over $7 million. MN Governor Mark Dayton appointed Thompson to the inaugural board of directors for MNsure, the MN Health Insurance Exchange in April 2013. Finally, in 2013 Thompson co-founded Healthcare.mn the Twin Cities premier organization for healthcare entrepreneurs, which has grown to over 2,000 members. From the University of Minnesota, Thompson has earned a B.S. in Economics, an M.S. in Statistics and an MBA from the Carlson School of Management. He has been married for 16 years and has two young sons.

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Episode # 112 – Dr. Zeev Neuwirth is the Chief Clinical Executive for Care Transformation & Strategic Services at Atrium Health – A Preeminent, Nationally Leading Healthcare System in the Southeast.

In this episode Ron chats with Physician Executive, Author, Podcast Host, and Speaker, Dr. Zeev Neuwirth. Here, Zeev shares insights he has gained from his research into reframing American healthcare. He talks about how he looks at the top performers and best ideas from both in and out of the healthcare industry for inspiration on how to improve the American healthcare system. Zeev explains many of the issues with fee for services and how that payment model can change the behavior of even the most moral physicians out there. He also does a deep dive into the importance of consumerism in healthcare and how focusing on that consumerism while providing better, more affordable care, with a better payment model is the way of the future.

Dr. Zeev Neuwirth is the author of “Reframing Healthcare: A Roadmap For Creating Disruptive Change” and produces and hosts the popular podcast series, “Creating a New Healthcare.” He is currently serving as Atrium Health’s Chief Clinical Executive for Care Transformation and Strategic Services.

Through his book, podcast series, speaking engagements, and executive leadership, Dr. Neuwirth is reorienting the way individuals and organizations think about healthcare, to catalyze movement towards an affordable, accessible, effective and safe healthcare system.

His ultimate goal is to humanize healthcare for those who serve within the system, and especially for those who are served by the system.

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